MOUNT SEIR (What is it?)

THE GREAT FALLING AWAY IS HERE;
(2Th 2:3) "Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition".

HAVE YOU FALLEN FROM GRACE?? LET'S SEE!

As we read the Word of God we meet the Lord JESUS CHRIST, who teaches us the mysteries of the last days events coming up to the manifestation of the sons of God and the sons of man, AND the great falling away prior to His coming; so let’s take a look at what He is saying in Ezekiel 35 regarding mount Seir.

Ezek 35:1 Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, Ezek 35:2 Son of man, set thy face against mount Seir, and prophesy against it, First of all, what is mount Seir? H8165 Se`iyr (say-eer') n/p. 1. Rough. KJV: devil, goat, hairy, kid, rough, satyr. Gen 36:8 “Thus dwelt Esau in mount Seir: Esau [is] Edom”. Mount Seir is Edom and Esau dwelt there. God is against it and He will make it desolate. But it (Seir), shall know that He (God YAHWAH), is the LORD. Therefore, Esau as a man is not different than Jacob, both of them have sinful flesh (carnal mind), but Jacob has a different Spirit. Ezek 35:3 “And say unto it, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O mount Seir, I [am] against thee, and I will stretch out mine hand against thee, and I will make thee most desolate. I will lay thy cities waste, and thou shalt be desolate, and thou shalt know that I [am] the LORD. Esau has cities, congregations of many, but how is it that he will know that God is the lord? Esau represents the carnal man or the carnal mind and we all have fleshly minds don’t we? Rom 7:14 “For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin”. Yes, I am born again but I still have sin dwelling in my flesh, a body that has not been redeemed or changed yet; Rom 8:23 “… waiting for the adoption, [to wit], the redemption of our body”. Right now, we serve God with the mind (Spirit), and we serve sin with the flesh. Rom 7:25 “… So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin”. Esau represents our flesh, mankind’s flesh, it does not represents “them” as we like to think but it represents us, our flesh. Ezek 35:9 I will make thee perpetual desolations, and thy cities shall not return: and ye shall know that I [am] the LORD. Because thou hast said, These two nations and these two countries shall be mine, and we will possess it; whereas the LORD was there: This is very interesting, because Esau hast said, that is mount Seir said, these two nations [H1471 Gentiles], and these two countries [H7761. The Land]. That is the physical land (the world), shall be mine, and we will possess it through our fleshly efforts. Notice that “we” is plural, obviously mount Seir is a religious group of people or a political group of people, even though is related to a single word like a devil, goat, hairy, kid, rough, satyr. It is a church, an assembly, a fellowship, a tribe, nation or any kind of human government structure, etc. That is a group of people that sets out to accomplish the work of God, which is to bring the kingdom of God to earth by their efforts, apart from God even if they do it in the name of God. In other words man’s way and not God’s way. So, if Esau represents our flesh, how is it that God separates some from being a part of these groups, cities, churches, and governments? Rev 18:4 “And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues”. Babylon here represents the same thing. God is saying you cannot be a part of any group, church or human structure (city). Moreover, God is saying, the relationship with Him is now one on one, you cannot be a part of any human structure led by any human being, even if it is on the web, only God can teach you and lead you, “Come out of her, my people”. Ezek 35:11 “Therefore, [as] I live, saith the Lord GOD, I will even do according to thine anger, and according to thine envy which thou hast used out of thy hatred against them; and I will make myself known among them, when I have judged thee”. This group of people or body of people hates the other group of people, (“thy hatred against them”). Who is the “them”? We will see later on but in any event God will judge Seir for that and He will make Himself known among them, oh! “Them” must be the true children of God. This is becoming clear now, we only have wheat and tares! Jacob and Esau! Most importantly, who is the “they” and do they know they hate “them”? The “they” we know is Esau, the carnal “Christian”, the one who is under the law, trying to be a good boy or a good girl in order to please their “father”, trying to be the salt of the earth instead of just be the salt of the earth, only because they don’t know who they are (the salt), or they are sugar trying to be salt; Rom 6:14 “… for ye are not under the law, but under grace”. The ones that do not realize that they have a carnal mind just like the world and therefore are not different than the world; Rom 3:9 “What then? are we better [than they]? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin”. They do not realize we have a beam in our eye just like everybody else, sin in the flesh; Matt 7:3 “And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?” Who is thy brother? They go around judging and criticizing others because they smoke, drink, play games on Sunday or Saturday, whatever they decided the Sabbath is, because they dressed like this or like that; Col 2:16 “Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath [days]”. The ones that go around judging others for everything they do which they think is wrong because they have a format of things they believe a Christian should do and should not do. The ones that were delivered from the law but turned back into it and are now in bondage; Gal 4:9 “But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?” They are known of God but turn again to the law or as Paul calls it, the flesh; Gal 3:3 “Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?” Or can you denied the fact that some are trying to be perfect, trying to be justify or sanctify by their works, trying to be “good” Christians, Holy, by the flesh, have you question that, how are some trying to be perfect by the flesh? Gal 2:16 “Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law … Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified”. The justification of the flesh does not come by the Works of the flesh but by the faith of Jesus. Gal 5:4 “Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace”. Justification, salvation or sanctification is of the Spirit, we are saved before the foundation of the world but we are justified by the atoning work of Jesus Christ at the cross; Rom 8:3 “For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:” 2Thess 2:13 “… because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:” Do they hate Jacob? Do they hate the ones that are free from the law? Sure they do, all you have to do to find out if they do or not is read; Gal 4:22-29. Let’s go back to Ezekiel; Ezek 35:12 “And thou shalt know that I [am] the LORD, [and that] I have heard all thy blasphemies which thou hast spoken against the mountains of Israel, saying, They are laid desolate, they are given us to consume. Thus with your mouth ye have boasted against me, and have multiplied your words against me: I have heard [them]”. This is the religious kind of people God calls carnal Christians and they will know that God is the Lord, they will see Him with their eyes and will bow their knee, they will know that He is the only teacher and king, but they will be laid desolate. They speak against “them” blasphemies pointing their fingers at “them” saying that they, that is “them” are laid desolate, but God says; Ezek 35:10 “… whereas the LORD was there:” They (Esau), exclude “them” out of the kingdom of God because they don’t behave like they think (“them”), should do, but God says they (Esau), are wrong because He (God) was there in His children … In other words they can see the sin in the others (them), but they cannot see their own sin; Matt 7:3 “And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?”. They hate those that acknowledge the fact that we all have sin because they think they are “born again” and without sin; John 8:7 “… and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her”, They throw rocks (stones), at everybody that would not conform to their understanding or system, but that applies to us (he that is without sin), as much as to them; Rom 3:9 “What then? are we better [than they]? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;” Now, we’re trying to see who is the “them”? Well, let’s go back to; Ezek 35:10 “Because thou hast said, These two nations [H1471] and these two countries shall be mine, and we will possess it; **whereas the LORD was there:**” These two nations [H1471 Gentiles], in Genesis we read; Gen 10:2 “The sons of Japheth; Gomer, and *Magog* …” Gen 10:5 “By these were the isles of the Gentiles [H1471] divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations [H1471 Gentiles]”. These are the nations that mount Seir wants to take for possession, they want to expel this people out of their land and claim it as theirs. Remember how the Jews always wanted to expel the Gentiles out of their land, also remember that mount Seir is a group of organized religious or political nature. You start seeing a connection between the Jews, carnal Christians, political organizations and Magog as well as the gentiles. But this is Magog you say, he is the enemy! Magog is Russia or Turkey! No, Magog is our carnal mind, our flesh, that is the enemy, that is where sin dwells, in Magog; Rom 7:17 "Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but [how] to perform that which is good I find not”. But he came out of the son of Noah who cover his shame when he got drunk and God blessed him; Gen 9:27 “God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant”. How can that be? How can Magog come out of the loins of Japheth who was bless by God, the curse was on Canaan the son of Ham not on Japheth? Magog is the flesh (the carnal mind), and the flesh of the elect child of God will be destroyed for the salvation of his soul; 1Cor 5:5 “To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus”. To find out, we must read what God says He will do to Gog and Magog (our flesh), and who they really are, so we go to Ezekiel 38 – 39. Ezek 38:2-4 “Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him, And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I [am] against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal: And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts [of armour, even] a great company [with] bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords:”

GOD IS AGAINST MAGOG (the carnal mind Rom 8:7), BUT HE WILL TURN HIM BACK?? THEY ALL HAVE SWORDS (BIBLES)?? Carnal Christians!! Ezek 38:8 “After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land [that is] brought back from the sword, [and is] gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them”. THIS IS TO HAPPENED AT THE LATTER YEARS (TODAY). THEY (MAGOG) OUR CARNAL MIND OR FLESH, IS BROUGHT FORTH OUT OF MANY NATIONS AND SHALL DWELL SAFELY, ALL OF THEM. ISN’T THAT WHAT NOAH SAID TO JAPHETH; “and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant” Gen 9:27 Ezek 38:10 “Thus saith the Lord GOD; It shall also come to pass, [that] at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought: And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates, To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places [that are now] inhabited, and upon the people [that are] gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land”. ISN’T THAT WHAT GOD SAID MOUNT SEIR OR MAGOG WOULD DO? THEY WOULD COME AGAINST THE PEOPLE THAT ARE DWELLING SAFELY, AT REST. Ezek 35:10 “Because thou hast said, These two nations and these two countries shall be mine, and we will possess it; whereas the LORD was there: THIS IS NOTHING MORE THAN OUR CARNAL MINDS OR CARNAL CHRISTIANS COMING AGAINST THE SPIRITUAL CHRISTIANS OR AS GOD CALL THEM “GENTILES”, THE SONS OF JAPHETH THE SON OF NOAH. Ezek 38:13 “Sheba, and Dedan, and the merchants of Tarshish, with all the young lions thereof, shall say unto thee, Art thou come to take a spoil? hast thou gathered thy company to take a prey? to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to take a great spoil? Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say unto Gog, Thus saith the Lord GOD; In that day when my people of Israel dwelleth safely, shalt thou not know [it]?” YES, WE ARE KNOWING THIS, PRECISELY AS GOD IS UNSEALING THE LAST DAYS EVENTS TO US AND THEY SHALL ALSO KNOW IT. Ezek 38:15 “And thou shalt come from thy place out of the north parts, thou, and many people with thee, all of them riding upon horses, a great company, and a mighty army: And thou shalt come up against my people of Israel, as a cloud to cover the land; it shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against my land, that the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes.”

AGAIN, GOD “shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes”. HE WILL MANIFEST THE SONS OF GOD TO THE WORLD AND THEY WILL KNOW THAT GOD IS GOD AND MAN IS NOT GOD, he will be sanctified in Gog. Ezek 38:17 “Thus saith the Lord GOD; [Art] thou he of whom I have spoken in old time by my servants the prophets of Israel, which prophesied in those days [many] years that I would bring thee against them? And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, [that] my fury shall come up in my face. For in my jealousy [and] in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel; So that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that [are] upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my presence, and the mountains shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground. And I will call for a sword against him throughout all my mountains, saith the Lord GOD: every man's sword shall be against his brother. And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that [are] with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone. Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the eyes of many nations, and they shall know that I [am] the LORD. Ezek 35:14 “Thus saith the Lord GOD; When the whole earth rejoiceth, I will make thee desolate. As thou didst rejoice at the inheritance of the house of Israel, because it was desolate, so will I do unto thee: thou shalt be desolate, O mount Seir, and all Idumea, [even] all of it: and they shall know that I [am] the LORD. I COULD GO ON AND ON ABOUT WHAT GOD IS DOING WITH MANKIND RIGHT NOW TO EVENTUALLY MANIFEST HIS GLORY TO ALL AND TO BRING PEACE ON THE EARTH WHERE WE WILL DWELL SAFELY FOR EVER MORE. BUT I WONDER IF YOU CAN SEE WHAT I’M SEEING, IF GOD IS SAYING OR SHOWING YOU THE SAME THING.